Madonna Says Working With Kanye West Was a “Bullfight”


…but nothing about Kanye is particularly easy. Madonna teamed up with Kanye for her new ‘Rebel Heart’ album (does someone still buy her music?) and she says working with the rapper was slightly like a “bullfight” because they both have very strong opinions. She admits that they didn’t end up agreeing very often but she does believe he has very interesting ideas:

“It’s a little bit of a bullfight, but we take turns. He knows that he’s walking into a room with a person with a strong point of view, and I do too. I listen to what he has to say, take it in, and he listens to what I say and takes it in. We didn’t agree on everything, but he has good ideas.”

On her internet haters, Madonna says they are simply cowards who wouldn’t do it if she was standing in front of them:

“You can hide behind your computer or your phone and say whatever you want – you’re not known. Could you say it to my face? Would you say it to my face? I doubt it.”

She believes society has much to overcome, and there is definitely still sexism and ageism, especially for women:

“Don’t be fooled, not much has changed – certainly not for women. We still live in a very sexist society that wants to limit people. Since I started, I’ve had people giving me a hard time because they didn’t think you could be sexual or have sexuality or sensuality in your work and be intelligent at the same time. For me, the fight has never ended.”


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Madonna Says Working With Kanye West Was a “Bullfight”

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